{"id":16965,"date":"2020-02-18T17:42:31","date_gmt":"2020-02-19T01:42:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/extension.wsu.edu\/clark\/?page_id=16965"},"modified":"2026-04-27T11:56:29","modified_gmt":"2026-04-27T18:56:29","slug":"douglas-fir-grove","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/extension.wsu.edu\/clark\/master-gardeners-home\/community-education\/heritage-tree\/douglas-fir-grove\/","title":{"rendered":"Douglas Fir Grove"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wsu-row wsu-row--sidebar-right\" >\r\n    \n<div class=\"wsu-column\"  style=\"\">\r\n\t\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"396\" height=\"202\" src=\"https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/wp-extension\/uploads\/sites\/2079\/2019\/10\/Heritage-Tree-Header-art-396x202.jpg\" alt=\"Heritage Trees Logo\" class=\"wp-image-16475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2019\/10\/Heritage-Tree-Header-art-396x202.jpg 396w, https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2019\/10\/Heritage-Tree-Header-art.jpg 525w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 396px) 100vw, 396px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Douglas Fir Grove HT4<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"792\" height=\"594\" src=\"https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/wp-extension\/uploads\/sites\/2079\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-792x594.jpg\" alt=\"Douglas fir grove\" class=\"wp-image-16966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-792x594.jpg 792w, https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-396x297.jpg 396w, https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/wpcdn.web.wsu.edu\/extension\/uploads\/sites\/83\/2020\/02\/20191210_104740-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 792px) 100vw, 792px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Tree Statistics<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>Common Name: Douglas Fir Grove<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Botanical Name: Pseudotsuga menziesii<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Trunk DBH (diameter at breast height: 25% of grove is over 36 inches \u2014 largest at about 55 inches<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Height: about 144 feet<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Spread: not measured \u2014 grove of trees<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hwQ2DcyQXTs\">Watch a video tour of the property<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Heritage Tree ID: HT4<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Tree Location<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\">Proebstel Neighborhood<br>23402 NE 108 St<br>Vancouver, WA 98682<br><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/maps\/9sz8PyuRAL8EB1gD9\">View in Google Maps<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">About the Species<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\"><i>Douglas fir (Pseudotsuga menziesii)<\/i>\u00a0is an\u00a0evergreen\u00a0conifer\u00a0species\u00a0in the pine family,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pinaceae\">Pinaceae<\/a>. It is\u00a0native\u00a0to western\u00a0North America\u00a0and is known as\u00a0Douglas-fir,\u00a0Oregon pine,\u00a0and\u00a0Columbian pine.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\">The common name honors&nbsp;David Douglas, a Scottish botanist and collector who first reported the extraordinary nature and potential of the species. The common name is misleading since it is not a true fir, i.e., not a member of the genus&nbsp;<i>Abies<\/i>. For this reason the name is often written as&nbsp;Douglas-fir&nbsp;(a name also used for the genus&nbsp;<i>Pseudotsuga<\/i>&nbsp;as a whole).<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-orstate-9\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[9]<\/sup><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\">The specific epithet&nbsp;<i>menziesii<\/i>&nbsp;is after&nbsp;Archibald Menzies, a Scottish physician and rival&nbsp;naturalist&nbsp;to&nbsp;David Douglas. Menzies first documented the tree on&nbsp;Vancouver Island&nbsp;in 1791. Colloquially, the species is also known simply as&nbsp;Doug fir<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-wilson2008-6\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;Douglas pine<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-wilson2008-6\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;(although the latter common name may also refer to&nbsp;<i>Pinus douglasiana<\/i>).<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-iucnpindoug-10\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[10]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;Other names for this tree have included&nbsp;Oregon pine,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-calflorassp-5\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[5]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;British Columbian pine,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-wilson2008-6\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;Puget Sound pine,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-wilson2008-6\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;Douglas spruce,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-wilson2008-6\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[6]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;false hemlock,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-calflorassp-5\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[5]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;red fir,<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-calflorassp-5\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[5]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;or&nbsp;red pine<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-calflorassp-5\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[5]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;(although again the latter may refer to a different tree species\u2014<i>Pinus resinosa<\/i>).<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-usdapire-11\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[11]<\/sup><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\">Douglas-firs are medium-size to extremely large evergreen trees, 70\u2013330 ft tall (although only coast Douglas-firs reach such great heights).<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Douglas_fir#cite_note-13\"><span class=\"s2\"><sup>[13]<\/sup><\/span><\/a>&nbsp;The&nbsp;leaves&nbsp;are flat, soft, linear, <\/span><span class=\"s2\"><sup>3<\/sup><\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u2044<\/span><span class=\"s2\"><sub>4<\/sub><\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u20131 <\/span><span class=\"s2\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/span><span class=\"s1\">\u2044<\/span><span class=\"s2\"><sub>2<\/sub><\/span><span class=\"s1\">&nbsp;in long, generally resembling those of the firs, occurring singly rather than in&nbsp;fascicles; they completely encircle the branches, which can be useful in recognizing the species. As the trees grow taller in denser forest, they lose their lower branches, such that the foliage may start high off the ground. Douglas-firs in environments with more light may have branches much closer to the ground.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s1\">The female&nbsp;cones&nbsp;are pendulous, with persistent scales, unlike those of true firs. They are distinctive in having a long tridentine (three-pointed)&nbsp;bract&nbsp;that protrudes prominently above each scale (it resembles the back half of a mouse, with two feet and a tail).<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"s3\"><i>Pseudotsuga menziesii<\/i>&nbsp;var.&nbsp;<i>menziesii<\/i>, <\/span><span class=\"s1\">the coast Douglas-fir, grows in the coastal regions from west-central&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/British_Columbia\"><span class=\"s4\">British Columbia<\/span><\/a>&nbsp;southward to central&nbsp;California. In&nbsp;Oregon&nbsp;and&nbsp;Washington, its range is continuous from the eastern edge of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cascade_Range\">Cascades<\/a>&nbsp;west to the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pacific_Coast_Ranges\">Pacific Coast Ranges<\/a>&nbsp;and Pacific Ocean.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">This Tree&#8217;s History<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"s2\">There are a number of historic logging implements in and around the property making us wonder if this was an old logging camp.&nbsp; This raises the question as to why the large trees were not removed from this property. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">&nbsp; <\/span>The stream running through the property is a tributary to Shanghai Creek.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/span><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><span class=\"s2\">Locating the exact location of logging camps is difficult but and there is a lot of general information about camps in the PNW and Vancouver area with great photos.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Our pages provide links to external sites for the convenience of users. 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